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Local Topic Forest Cove Variance Public Hearing Information

Local Topic Forest Cove Variance Public Hearing Information

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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:04pm  
ZMAN : The grass on that course was **** last time I went out there. I also lost my sandal in the pond. This was after the sole of my golf shoe tore apart. So, **** that course.
 
@eighteen : You could of had a V8.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:08pm  
Well, I just called Dave Martins office to see if he would be attending the Meeting on Thursday and to see where he stands on the matter. I talked to an assistant named Dustin in his office and was told that the hearing this Thursday is likely to be deferred because of insufficient information by the applicant. He also told me that Dave Martin supports the residents of Forest Cove and is against the development (I'll believe that when I hear it right from Dave's mouth though).
 
@ZMAN : did they say what office he aspires to when his current term on council expires
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:08pm  
drainage flowing southbound towards the river and independent of the current FC down system.
 
@asasolid2r : I'm not an engineer but I just don't know how that would be possible because there isnt anywhere to put additional drainage like that, I know this because it was already discussed at a meeting I went to with the flood czar guy and Dave Martin about 5 years ago when they were talking about widening Hamblen (right before Harvey) and that's what they said. They have since added some culverts down near Hamblen, but I don't think there is any more unused space to add more. Further more, Forest cove as a neighborhood already depends on the drainage running down the center of the course to Hamblin Road, so if any of that is built upon or repurposed for other drainage because of new streets ,where will that water be diverted too?
The problem is that this area is completely blocked in by other residential houses already and It was never intended to have homes built on it.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:10pm  
asasolid2r : I'm not an engineer but I just don't know how that would be possible because there isnt anywhere to put additional drainage like that, I know this because it was already discussed at a meeting I went to with the flood czar guy and Dave martin about 5 years ago when they were talking about widening Hamblen (right before Harvey) and that's what they said. They have since added some culverts down near Hamblen, but I don't think there is any more unused space to add more. Further more, Forest cove as a neighborhood already depends on the drainage running down the center of the course to Hamblin Road, so if any of that is built upon or repurposed for other drainage because of new streets ,where will that water be diverted too? The problem is that this area is completely blocked in by other residential houses already and It was never intended to have homes built on it.
 
@ZMAN : underground, out of sight and out of mind.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:11pm  
ZMAN : underground, out of sight and out of mind.
 
@asasolid2r : Underground where? they would be tunneling under other people houses, LOL
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:16pm  
asasolid2r : Underground where? they would be tunneling under other people houses, LOL
 
@ZMAN : under and next to the new streets, think of all those pipes in NWH, SWH and TWV that drain into the Flood Control ditch. They carry runoff from the streets. It can all be done below street level.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:16pm  
ZMAN : under and next to the new streets, think of all those pipes in NWH, SWH and TWV that drain into the Flood Control ditch. They carry runoff from the streets. It can all be done below street level.
 
@asasolid2r : Yes, Maybe if your starting from scratch, but not if your building in the middle of an established neighborhood with no underground systems.
Also , the golf course is huge, during harvey the space behind my house was a lake, it would take a ditch the size of the one between forest cove an trailwood to move all that water.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:20pm  
asasolid2r : Yes, Maybe if your starting from scratch, but not if your building in the middle of an established neighborhood with no underground systems.
 
@ZMAN : their building a new street to Hamblen aren't they, all the other new streets will have to tie into it.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:25pm  
ZMAN : their building a new street to Hamblen aren't they, all the other new streets will have to tie into it.
 
@asasolid2r : Yes, but what I'm trying to tell you is that area is already being used as drainage, so how can you add more to something that's already moving as much water as it can. If you add 128 houses and streets to go with them that land is not going to store as much water as it did when it was empty, the water has to go somewhere and in my opinion normal under street drainage will not be enough. Like I said, Im not an engineer, but if Perry homes was able to **** it up so bad in ElmGrove that people who had never flooded before, flooded twice in a year, Im certainly not gonna trust this nonsense either.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:25pm  
asasolid2r : Yes, Maybe if your starting from scratch, but not if your building in the middle of an established neighborhood with no underground systems. Also , the golf course is huge, during harvey the space behind my house was a lake, it would take a ditch the size of the one between forest cove an trailwood to move all that water.
 
@ZMAN : as soon as someone can get the judge fitted with a shovel for the Photo ops, that ditch is about to get 50 percent more capacity as part of the Post Harvey bond election.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:35pm  
asasolid2r : Yes, but what I'm trying to tell you is that area is already being used as drainage, so how can you add more to something that's already moving as much water as it can. If you add 128 houses and streets to go with them that land is not going to store as much water as it did when it was empty, the water has to go somewhere and in my opinion normal under street drainage will not be enough. Like I said, Im not an engineer, but if Perry homes was able to **** it up so bad in ElmGrove that people who had never flooded before, flooded twice in a year, Im certainly not gonna trust this nonsense either.
 
@ZMAN : the water will be moving faster towards the river. The golf course had several low spots that will be filled in when they start development. They are going to build it at the lowest possible cost that they can, that's why they have these meetings to air out the issues of how it impacts existing property owners. I used to get paid to sleep through these things and then read the minutes later. You bring up the issues now, so hopefully there won't be any later.
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 3:36pm  
God I'm glad I didn't buy that place on Walnut...
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 4:00pm  
the water will be moving faster towards the river.
 
@asasolid2r : A river thats usually full when flooding starts, LOL
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 4:41pm  
asasolid2r : A river thats usually full when flooding starts, LOL
 
@ZMAN : except for Harvey, usually floods is a foot or two over Hamblen not all the way up out of the river bottom where they are planning to build
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~ 3 years, 4 mos ago   Sep 27, '21 4:51pm  
God I'm glad I didn't buy that place on Walnut...
 
@Reivax : Were you going to buy that big grey one level house just before the bridge? I like those houses on Walnut but don't like the traffic and the giant ditches
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