@Forbin : I agree. I've seen some who shoot that way and shoot far more accurately than others using the traditional up and down grip. I'd even go so far as to say that some of those people can outshoot someone on a rifle. Yes, it's highly inaccurate 98% of the time. Yes, it's "wrong". Yes, it's very cliché and "gangsta". But yes, some people can do it. Definitely odd though 4951